Choosing a Smartphone, Part 2: Android vs. Palm WebOS – Updated

In our second in a series of articles helping you choose a smartphone OS, we’re going to take a look at Android versus Palm’s WebOS, which by every metric is soundly bringing up the rear in the smartphone OS race. Still, it has a lot of features that not only show Android’s possible future, but also its room for improvement.

Update 3/22/10: AT&T announced that they will carry both the Palm “Plus” handsets at an  undetermined future date. That makes Palm almost as ubiquitous as Android.

Palm WebOS

Palm’s rebirth has been well publicized, and Palm WebOS is rare, as a truly unique take on the Smartphone. By putting everything on the web, and limiting access of native apps, Palm made a bold move to the cloud. Palm’s take on Multitasking was also highly touted, though in reality it suffers from a pretty steep performance hit. Palm also made serious nods to its heritage with deep gesture support. WebOS also puts a high priority on unifying information. Contacts, Calendars, and Email are all pulled in from dissimilar sources such as Google and GMail, MS Exchange, Facebook, AIM, and Palm Profile. They call this Synergy, and among Palm users, it is perhaps the most beloved feature. It aggregates your data, and gives you powerfully simple ways to look at your data, like a unified inbox for all your email accounts, a layered calendar, and a complete contact list. Each area of information can also be adequately segregated, too keep you from getting to overloaded. Palm’s hardware is rather limited. While the Pre and Pixi have been fairly well acclaimed, the lack of choice in hardware features and specs is rather limiting. If you don’t want a physical keyboard, look elsewhere. There are two versions of each Palm handset. The Palm Pre and Pixi Plus are both available from Verizon, and feature more powerful hardware. The Pre Plus has doubled RAM for handling more simultaneous tasks, and an additional 8GB of storage, bringing its total to 16GB. The Pixi gets a much needed addition of WiFi, which was left out originally, in one of those what-were-they-thinking moves. Sprint doesn’t have the Plus versions of either handset. If you’re buying a Palm device, it wouldn’t make sense at this point to choose a Pre or Pixi on Sprint. If you’re stuck on Sprint, and dead set on a WebOS smartphone, hang in there, I’m sure Sprint will get the Plus versions at some point. One concern that some have is Palm’s financial situation. It’s feared that, without a fresh device, or a sudden wave of sales, that Palm will not be able to keep its head above water. This is a valid concern, as we all want to use our smartphones for at least a year, and look forward to software updates and upgrades. And then there’s the apps. Who would develop apps for a dead platform? And when it’s time to upgrade, resale prices for Palm devices could be much lower if Palm is dissolved.

Android vs. WebOS

It could be said that Palm was the first one to out-Apple Apple. Apple’s operating system is highly polished, though closed, and limited in some ways. However, the user experience is tightly controlled. Palm takes this to the next level by nearly eschewing native apps and content. What it does, it does extremely well, but from an outsider’s perspective, it feels somewhat limited in what it can do. There are very few 3rd party apps for Palm, but what apps there seem to be very well put together. It seems that Palm doesn’t subscribe to the more is better philosophy that brought us such gems as iFart Mobile and Wobble. Maybe that’s a good thing. Palm’s Synergy and layered information views seem to work with very little setup and tweaking. This is one advantage that WebOS has over Android, at least stock, unaltered Android. As far as I am aware, there is no Android counterpart to the layered calendar that automatically pulls from seperate calendars. You can get this functionality, however, with Google Calendar. Google Calendar syncs with any Android handset, and you can get your Facebook events on Google Calendar. Also along the lines of aggregating information, MotoBLUR does a great job of this, by combining your social networking into one place. This isn’t to say that Palm WebOS is superior in every way to Android. As with Apple, your hardware choice is limited with Palm. With Palm, you can have a portrait-qwerty slider device with a mediocre keyboard and a below-average screen size, or a portrait-qwerty candybar with a great keyboard but an even smaller screen. While you can’t get a portrat-qwerty phone for Android, you can have a phone with or without keyboard, from 3.2″ screen up to 3.7″ (5″ if you count the upcoming Dell Streak) with different colors, form factors, and features to fit your needs. Speaking strictly of hardware, speaking, there are handsets that spec out higher than Palm’s offerings on every major carrier in the US. Android also boasts an App Market that is now 30,000 strong. The total number of Palm WebOS apps in the catalog is not easy to find. On their site they state there are “many”, though on their website they have 12 sections, and each they list between 12 and 20 apps. Games had the highest count, at 33. While both OS’s sport webkit-based browsers, Palm’s is at the heart of its entire OS, and as such is very good. It is both fast, and has native multi-touch pinch-to-zoom. When it comes to syncing media, the two OS’s are also in the same boat. On Windows (and Mac), both require either The Missing Sync ($40, media, photos, contacts, calendars, and more), or DoubleTwist (Free, media and photos only). It’s possible that no one has yet approached the level of polish that the WebOS gives a user. Android, even with SenseUI, doesn’t quite top WebOS for slickness and simplicity. But Android does give users more flexibility and control, something that appeals to techies and tinkerers. But for people who want the phone to do the work for them, the WebOS is an excellent choice. The bottom line is this. Android is an OS that can do just about anything very well, many things extremely well, and can work for almost everyone, but WebOS feels like an OS that does a few things really well, some things it doesn’t do at all, and it’s targeted at a very specific type of person, the person who wants to be connected and organized while spending the least amount of time integrating their mobile device.

Category

Palm WebOS

Android
Web Browsing Webkit Webkit, Proprietary & Dolphin
Email Proprietary, Unified Inbox Android Mail
GMail Support Mail, Calendar, Contacts Sync Mail, Calendar, Contacts Sync
Exchange Support Mail, Contacts, Calendars Mail, Contacts, Calendars (2.0 only)
Contacts Synced w/Multiple Services Synced to Google Account
Information Aggregation Synergy MotoBLUR on some devices, Google Calendar, Facebook Calendar, Notification Area
Notifications “Live” tiles for Email, Calendar,  Social, SMS, App notifications Unified notification area for Email, SMS, Calendar, Social
Camera 3.2MP Avail. 5MP w/Dual Flash, Autofocus
Media Sync DoubleTwist (Mac or PC) Doubletwist (Mac or PC)
Media Organization & Playback Proprietary Proprietary
Multitasking Performance Easy to use, Fast on Pre Plus Excellent, controllable
App Store ~2k >35k Apps
Interface Customization Full, but must be rooted Widgets, Wallpaper, Icons, Skins
Handset Choice 2 (4 if you count the Plus) Many
U.S. Carrier Availability Verizon, Sprint, maybe AT&T T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, AT&T

Wow, I had to take a lot of bold out of the Android column on that one. I think the choice between Android and Palm comes down to personality, availability, and hardware preference.

First, personality: I think if you like out-of-the-box granular control over your phone, you’ll like Android. If you appreciate simple setup and want the phone to “just work” you might lean more toward Palm. But this is just a generalization. You should try both to make sure.

Second, availability: You may have to switch to Sprint or Verizon to get a Palm device. That may not be a bad thing. Sprint has, by far, the most affordable smartphone plans in the US. Android is a little more ubiquitous and is probably the best option if you’re stuck with (or actually like!) AT&T or T-Mobile.

Finally, the big one, hardware choice: If you don’t like portrait qwerty layouts, you will not like Palm. Their whole design language is predicated on this form factor. It’s been their trademark for years, and it’s not going away. If you want a large screen on your device, Android is the way to go. If you like landscape qwerty, or no keyboard at all, your best options are not with Palm. Again, I’ll be clear that this is based on what’s available now. I know someone will probably say “Palm is going to come out with a 4″ landscape qwerty” but they haven’t yet, and they haven’t even announced it.

Stay tuned for our next in the series: Android vs. iPhone 3GS and 4G!

About Ryan Trevisol

Background: I was born, raised, and live in South Florida. I have a Bachelor in Management Information Systems from FAU, and work as a Computer Tech. I also make custom electric guitars with my father, and do some freelance web design work. Interests: I use mobile technology every day. The only way to stay on top of my crazy life is to keep all the aspects of my life under control is to keep everything recorded, organized, and reminding me digitally.

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  • What?

    You android fanboy. WebOS has more than 2K apps and they are as easy to find as Apple’s and Androids – in the app catalog and on the website.
    WebOS has full multitouch – with pinch-to-zoom – BEFORE ANDROID.
    You may PREFER Android but if you are going to do a comparison at least be honest.

  • What?

    You android fanboy. WebOS has more than 2K apps and they are as easy to find as Apple’s and Androids – in the app catalog and on the website.
    WebOS has full multitouch – with pinch-to-zoom – BEFORE ANDROID.
    You may PREFER Android but if you are going to do a comparison at least be honest.

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    Multitouch point corrected.

    Also, if you could provide me with a link to browse the entire Palm catalog that’s accessible without having to own a device, please post it. I couldn’t find one. Also note that I didn’t say how many they had. And compared with 130,000+ and 30,000+, 2,000 apps are fairly few. Few enough that palm doesn’t exactly advertise how many they have.

    Now, as to the perceived slant that you saw in the article, first of all, may I remind you that you’re on an Android site.

    Second of all, I think you missed all the good points I made about Palm’s Synergy, simplicity, polish, and complete experience. In the end it’s different strokes for different folks:

    “It’s possible that no one has yet approached the level of polish that the WebOS gives a user. Android, even with SenseUI, doesn’t quite top WebOS for slickness and simplicity. But Android does give users more flexibility and control, something that appeals to techies and tinkerers. But for people who want the phone to do the work for them, the WebOS is an excellent choice.”

    Again, this is an Android site, and the above is an honest article.

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    Multitouch point corrected.

    Also, if you could provide me with a link to browse the entire Palm catalog that’s accessible without having to own a device, please post it. I couldn’t find one. Also note that I didn’t say how many they had. And compared with 130,000+ and 30,000+, 2,000 apps are fairly few. Few enough that palm doesn’t exactly advertise how many they have.

    Now, as to the perceived slant that you saw in the article, first of all, may I remind you that you’re on an Android site.

    Second of all, I think you missed all the good points I made about Palm’s Synergy, simplicity, polish, and complete experience. In the end it’s different strokes for different folks:

    “It’s possible that no one has yet approached the level of polish that the WebOS gives a user. Android, even with SenseUI, doesn’t quite top WebOS for slickness and simplicity. But Android does give users more flexibility and control, something that appeals to techies and tinkerers. But for people who want the phone to do the work for them, the WebOS is an excellent choice.”

    Again, this is an Android site, and the above is an honest article.

  • Zahid

    First off, kudos from a Palm Pre Plus owner for a fair comparison of the two platforms.

    One thing your readers probably don’t know–I didn’t until after I got my handset–is that WebOS has a vibrant and prolific homebrew community. This means there are a ton of patches, tweaks, themes, and beta apps that you wouldn’t know about if you just looked at the App catalog. This gives you the ability to really customize your experience.

    Unlike Apple, Palm appears to actively support these efforts, so I don’t feel like I have to choose between staying legal and getting the cool stuff that people are working on.

  • Zahid

    First off, kudos from a Palm Pre Plus owner for a fair comparison of the two platforms.

    One thing your readers probably don’t know–I didn’t until after I got my handset–is that WebOS has a vibrant and prolific homebrew community. This means there are a ton of patches, tweaks, themes, and beta apps that you wouldn’t know about if you just looked at the App catalog. This gives you the ability to really customize your experience.

    Unlike Apple, Palm appears to actively support these efforts, so I don’t feel like I have to choose between staying legal and getting the cool stuff that people are working on.

  • WebOSUser

    One point I don’t understand: you claim that “Android does give users more flexibility and control, something that appeals to techies and tinkerers”.
    The Palm devices provide root access out of the box, which as far as I know, Android does not. Since WebOS is a combination of Javascript and native services, it can be patched very easily: only parts of it are open source, but almost everything is source viewable.
    Preware, an open source WebOS app, allows the user to tweak just about any aspect of the OS (modify and enhance every native app, change the look of the OS etc). And Palm is perfectly fine with that…
    Furthermore, by using the root access, you can use the underlying Linux OS for whatever you want to do (copy files via wireless, SSH access to the device). A serious open source community has developed around WebOS for those reasons. As a techie, I found WebOS much more open and useful when it comes to control.
    Can you recompile the Linux kernel on your Android phone using gcc on the device? No… Even though it’s an open source OS…

  • WebOSUser

    One point I don’t understand: you claim that “Android does give users more flexibility and control, something that appeals to techies and tinkerers”.
    The Palm devices provide root access out of the box, which as far as I know, Android does not. Since WebOS is a combination of Javascript and native services, it can be patched very easily: only parts of it are open source, but almost everything is source viewable.
    Preware, an open source WebOS app, allows the user to tweak just about any aspect of the OS (modify and enhance every native app, change the look of the OS etc). And Palm is perfectly fine with that…
    Furthermore, by using the root access, you can use the underlying Linux OS for whatever you want to do (copy files via wireless, SSH access to the device). A serious open source community has developed around WebOS for those reasons. As a techie, I found WebOS much more open and useful when it comes to control.
    Can you recompile the Linux kernel on your Android phone using gcc on the device? No… Even though it’s an open source OS…

  • http://www.palmpixi.org Palm Pixi

    “And with a possible launch on AT&T this summer, [Palm's] phones will nearly as ubiquitous as the Nexus One.”

    By that you really mean that when the Nexus One is available on Sprint and Verizon it will be nearly as ubiquitous as the Palm Pre?

    “If you’re buying a Palm device, it wouldn’t make sense at this point to choose a Pre or Pixi on Sprint.”

    It wouldn’t make sense unless you want to save money as Sprint offers a Simply Everything plan for $70 – I think the cheapest contract of any smartphone.

    “Palm’s hardware is rather limited.”

    While true, Apple’s hardware is also limited and it hasn’t hurt them.

    It’s worth noting that Palm updates their phones more often that Android phones.

    By the time Palm were to fold the resale price of any phone on the market today would be insignificant.

    It might be nice to mention Universal Search. I can dig up any fact faster than an iPhone user. I don’t know if I can dig up a fact faster than a Android user as I have only seen one person with an Android device.

    Zahid makes a great point about the homebrew stuff.

  • http://www.palmpixi.org Palm Pixi

    “And with a possible launch on AT&T this summer, [Palm's] phones will nearly as ubiquitous as the Nexus One.”

    By that you really mean that when the Nexus One is available on Sprint and Verizon it will be nearly as ubiquitous as the Palm Pre?

    “If you’re buying a Palm device, it wouldn’t make sense at this point to choose a Pre or Pixi on Sprint.”

    It wouldn’t make sense unless you want to save money as Sprint offers a Simply Everything plan for $70 – I think the cheapest contract of any smartphone.

    “Palm’s hardware is rather limited.”

    While true, Apple’s hardware is also limited and it hasn’t hurt them.

    It’s worth noting that Palm updates their phones more often that Android phones.

    By the time Palm were to fold the resale price of any phone on the market today would be insignificant.

    It might be nice to mention Universal Search. I can dig up any fact faster than an iPhone user. I don’t know if I can dig up a fact faster than a Android user as I have only seen one person with an Android device.

    Zahid makes a great point about the homebrew stuff.

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    @Zahid, first of all, thanks for seeing how unbiased I was trying to be there. It’s tough. And again, everyone knows when you go to Engadget they love Apple and hate Microsoft, Tech Crunch hates Apple and loves Android, and Gizmodo pretty much hates everything, but seems to hate Windows Phone less.

    @Zahid, WebOS user, I knew about the WebOS homebrew stuff, but left out the homebrew communities of both Android and WebOS. You definitely make a good point about how much these phones can be customized, but that’s also true about Android. Almost every Android handset has been rooted, can be unlocked, and similar amounts of customization are happening in that community.

    I’ve been writing this series for people who perhaps aren’t as technically inclined. I’m of the mind that if you’re comfortable rooting your device (or Jailbreaking it, as the case may be), you already know what platform you want, or if you don’t know, these articles won’t be able to tell you anything you don’t already know.

    I know a lot of people who aren’t sure about what smartphone to choose. There’s a lot of confusion in the marketplace right now and I think it’s a great time for Android and Palm. Google released the Nexus One which is one of the most powerful phones on the market, and Palm just released it’s most powerful phones yet, while Apple is still saying nothing about their next version of the iPhone, Windows Phone 7 is still a ways off, and Blackberry’s trying to innovate while not alienating their core audience.

    However, not every smartphone OS is for everyone. In the initial version of the article I mentioned humorously that Palm’s devices seem to be targeted at my mom, and I think that’s true. My mom might get a Nexus One, but only if I spend a few hours setting it up for her. If she got a Pre or Pixi, she would probably be able to set it up herself and would likely be less frustrated with it. She’s familiar with my iPhone because I’ve had one for 3 years now, but even then, I think she’d find it easier to use Palm’s device. Not saying I’m catering to the less tech-savvy among us, but many tech-savvy people want mobile technology, and want to use it to its potential, but don’t have the time or desire to tinker with it for hours.

    @Palm Pixi: The Nexus One is available right now for T-Mobile and AT&T. It has been officially announced by Verizon and Sprint, and WILL be available for them. Palms are on Sprint and Verizon and have been rumored to come to AT&T, with nothing really about T-Mobile. In a matter of months the Nexus One will be available for all major carriers, and will be available unlocked (probably in GSM and CDMA flavors), and likely be usable with most if not all minor and regional carriers. In the next couple of months, the Palm devices may or may not be on more than Sprint and Verizon, and as far as I know, are not available unlocked for use on smaller CDMA carriers.

    As to the recommendation not to buy on Sprint, read the next sentence. I wasn’t recommending that people jump ship and go to Verizon, unless they absolutely have to have WebOS RIGHT NOW.
    “If you’re stuck on Sprint, and dead set on a WebOS smartphone, hang in there, I’m sure Sprint will get the Plus versions at some point.”
    If you’re on Sprint, (and I guess, if you want to sign up for their über-cheap plans), don’t buy a Palm device YET.

    You’d hate it if you bought a Pre on Sprint now, only to have the Plus version come out 3 months later, with double the operating ram and double the storage memory.

    It’s just like the iPhone. You’d be crazy to buy a 3GS now, being that summer is around the corner and Apple traditionally releases a new handset every year. Why buy something that you pretty much know is going to be obsolete real quick? If we had rumors that the Nexus Two was right around the corner, would it make sense to buy it now? No. But I know that when I buy my 1GHz, 512MB-Ram, 3.7″AMOLED high res screen Nexus One, that I won’t have spec envy for at least a year.

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    @Zahid, first of all, thanks for seeing how unbiased I was trying to be there. It’s tough. And again, everyone knows when you go to Engadget they love Apple and hate Microsoft, Tech Crunch hates Apple and loves Android, and Gizmodo pretty much hates everything, but seems to hate Windows Phone less.

    @Zahid, WebOS user, I knew about the WebOS homebrew stuff, but left out the homebrew communities of both Android and WebOS. You definitely make a good point about how much these phones can be customized, but that’s also true about Android. Almost every Android handset has been rooted, can be unlocked, and similar amounts of customization are happening in that community.

    I’ve been writing this series for people who perhaps aren’t as technically inclined. I’m of the mind that if you’re comfortable rooting your device (or Jailbreaking it, as the case may be), you already know what platform you want, or if you don’t know, these articles won’t be able to tell you anything you don’t already know.

    I know a lot of people who aren’t sure about what smartphone to choose. There’s a lot of confusion in the marketplace right now and I think it’s a great time for Android and Palm. Google released the Nexus One which is one of the most powerful phones on the market, and Palm just released it’s most powerful phones yet, while Apple is still saying nothing about their next version of the iPhone, Windows Phone 7 is still a ways off, and Blackberry’s trying to innovate while not alienating their core audience.

    However, not every smartphone OS is for everyone. In the initial version of the article I mentioned humorously that Palm’s devices seem to be targeted at my mom, and I think that’s true. My mom might get a Nexus One, but only if I spend a few hours setting it up for her. If she got a Pre or Pixi, she would probably be able to set it up herself and would likely be less frustrated with it. She’s familiar with my iPhone because I’ve had one for 3 years now, but even then, I think she’d find it easier to use Palm’s device. Not saying I’m catering to the less tech-savvy among us, but many tech-savvy people want mobile technology, and want to use it to its potential, but don’t have the time or desire to tinker with it for hours.

    @Palm Pixi: The Nexus One is available right now for T-Mobile and AT&T. It has been officially announced by Verizon and Sprint, and WILL be available for them. Palms are on Sprint and Verizon and have been rumored to come to AT&T, with nothing really about T-Mobile. In a matter of months the Nexus One will be available for all major carriers, and will be available unlocked (probably in GSM and CDMA flavors), and likely be usable with most if not all minor and regional carriers. In the next couple of months, the Palm devices may or may not be on more than Sprint and Verizon, and as far as I know, are not available unlocked for use on smaller CDMA carriers.

    As to the recommendation not to buy on Sprint, read the next sentence. I wasn’t recommending that people jump ship and go to Verizon, unless they absolutely have to have WebOS RIGHT NOW.
    “If you’re stuck on Sprint, and dead set on a WebOS smartphone, hang in there, I’m sure Sprint will get the Plus versions at some point.”
    If you’re on Sprint, (and I guess, if you want to sign up for their über-cheap plans), don’t buy a Palm device YET.

    You’d hate it if you bought a Pre on Sprint now, only to have the Plus version come out 3 months later, with double the operating ram and double the storage memory.

    It’s just like the iPhone. You’d be crazy to buy a 3GS now, being that summer is around the corner and Apple traditionally releases a new handset every year. Why buy something that you pretty much know is going to be obsolete real quick? If we had rumors that the Nexus Two was right around the corner, would it make sense to buy it now? No. But I know that when I buy my 1GHz, 512MB-Ram, 3.7″AMOLED high res screen Nexus One, that I won’t have spec envy for at least a year.

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    Post updated with the same comparison chart and conclusions. Rip ‘em up, guys!

  • http://www.trevisol.com Ryan Trevisol

    Post updated with the same comparison chart and conclusions. Rip ‘em up, guys!

  • iHarley

    I’m a very happy webOS user who’s a little worried that Palm might not be around this time next year. With the recent announcement of the Nexus One coming out to Sprint I was looking at the pros/cons of webOS vs Android and trying to decide if I should jump ship now, or hope that Palm has one last phone left in them. Thanks for the comparison, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but the clear winner in hardware support is obviously Android. Maybe Palm could license their webOS, or come out with a killer phone.

  • iHarley

    I’m a very happy webOS user who’s a little worried that Palm might not be around this time next year. With the recent announcement of the Nexus One coming out to Sprint I was looking at the pros/cons of webOS vs Android and trying to decide if I should jump ship now, or hope that Palm has one last phone left in them. Thanks for the comparison, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but the clear winner in hardware support is obviously Android. Maybe Palm could license their webOS, or come out with a killer phone.

  • adam

    35,000 application not 20k

  • adam

    35,000 application not 20k

  • adam

    palm hasnt a caMERa of 5.0 is 3.2 megapixes do your homework

  • adam

    palm hasnt a caMERa of 5.0 is 3.2 megapixes do your homework

  • Linux Developer

    I think a huge difference is being omitted. And that’s the fact that C++ apps can run on WebOS with SDL (Linux equivalent of DirectX) with Palm’s PDK. Android apps are primarily Java with limited C++ support (only libc, libm, and libz). I have no problem with Java (WebOS uses Java for many of its functions too), but all the open-source programs like Quake, Doom, ScummVM are written for C++/SDL. And commercial games like Need For Speed and Assassin’s Creed are too. Until SDL is supported by Android, its support for native apps is crippled. WebOS and Android are not operating systems, Linux is (and they both run on linux). Linux without SDL is like Windows without DirectX.

  • Linux Developer

    I think a huge difference is being omitted. And that’s the fact that C++ apps can run on WebOS with SDL (Linux equivalent of DirectX) with Palm’s PDK. Android apps are primarily Java with limited C++ support (only libc, libm, and libz). I have no problem with Java (WebOS uses Java for many of its functions too), but all the open-source programs like Quake, Doom, ScummVM are written for C++/SDL. And commercial games like Need For Speed and Assassin’s Creed are too. Until SDL is supported by Android, its support for native apps is crippled. WebOS and Android are not operating systems, Linux is (and they both run on linux). Linux without SDL is like Windows without DirectX.

  • Ace

    Good job, Ryan, especially for someone who doesn’t carry the phone every day. Pretty objective.

    RE Palm’s financials: worth noting that Palm’s balance sheet and cash position are actually quite strong, and that Elevation Partners (major stockholder) continues to have faith. The smartphone market has been one of the key growth markets during the recession and isn’t likely to slow any time soon. I don’t think anyone would argue that there isn’t room for five players in that market, or that Palm doesn’t have the moxy to be one of those five. If it plays its cards right, it stands to be in the top 3. I define playing it’s cards right as merely executing all the announced (or probable) steps: successful AT&T launch, product refreshes in the next 12 months in both Sprint and Verizon, successful deployment of Flash 10.1, continued migration of PDK(Plug-In Development Kit)-enabled apps from Apple’s App Store and Android MarketPlace, and continued delivery of major, compelling enhancements via regular OTA updates.

    May I point out a couple of WebOS additions to your grid:

    GMail Support: also syncs GMail labels

    Exchange Support: also syncs tasks and folders, and provides full Global Address Lookup in Universal Search, as well as allowing up to 16 separate Exchange inboxes

    Camera: Extended Depth-of-Field lens, with DXO post-processing (eliminates distortion)

    Another significant WebOS feature for Verizon users: 3G Mobile Hot Spot (BTW, it rocks–I consistently get speed tests in the 1.5-1.9 Mbps range).

    RE your request for an online WebOS app listing: http://www.projectappetite.com (here you can track who’s in the lead in the $1 million app contest Palm’s running).

  • Ace

    Good job, Ryan, especially for someone who doesn’t carry the phone every day. Pretty objective.

    RE Palm’s financials: worth noting that Palm’s balance sheet and cash position are actually quite strong, and that Elevation Partners (major stockholder) continues to have faith. The smartphone market has been one of the key growth markets during the recession and isn’t likely to slow any time soon. I don’t think anyone would argue that there isn’t room for five players in that market, or that Palm doesn’t have the moxy to be one of those five. If it plays its cards right, it stands to be in the top 3. I define \playing it’s cards right\ as merely executing all the announced (or probable) steps: successful AT&T launch, product refreshes in the next 12 months in both Sprint and Verizon, successful deployment of Flash 10.1, continued migration of PDK(Plug-In Development Kit)-enabled apps from Apple’s App Store and Android MarketPlace, and continued delivery of major, compelling enhancements via regular OTA updates.

    May I point out a couple of WebOS additions to your grid:

    GMail Support: also syncs GMail labels

    Exchange Support: also syncs tasks and folders, and provides full Global Address Lookup in Universal Search, as well as allowing up to 16 separate Exchange inboxes

    Camera: Extended Depth-of-Field lens, with DXO post-processing (eliminates distortion)

    Another significant WebOS feature for Verizon users: 3G Mobile Hot Spot (BTW, it rocks–I consistently get speed tests in the 1.5-1.9 Mbps range).

    RE your request for an online WebOS app listing: http://www.projectappetite.com (here you can track who’s in the lead in the $1 million app contest Palm’s running).

  • Steven

    Hi,

    Is this conversation still active? I am a bit of a luddite, and would like to ask what I am sure is a total bonehead question. Any responses would be greatly appreciated!

    I’m now debating whether to buy a Pre Plus or an HTC Incredible. I don’t know much about either, and am upgrading from an ancient LG, so am a smart phone novice in every way. The feature that sways me toward the Pre Plus is the free Mi-Fi. This feature would allow me to cancel my Verizon mobile broadband for my laptop (always happy to save some money).

    Verizon tells me it is possible to use the Incredible as a hotspot, but to do so requires purchasing an additional $49.99 data package (in addition to regular minutes and the $29.99 data package for any smart phone). Is this true? If, instead, I bought Easy Tether or PDANet one time, would that allow me to avoid that pesky $49.99 monthly charge?

    Thanks so much!

    Steven
    nevetsaccount@gmail.com

  • Steven

    Hi,

    Is this conversation still active? I am a bit of a luddite, and would like to ask what I am sure is a total bonehead question. Any responses would be greatly appreciated!

    I’m now debating whether to buy a Pre Plus or an HTC Incredible. I don’t know much about either, and am upgrading from an ancient LG, so am a smart phone novice in every way. The feature that sways me toward the Pre Plus is the free Mi-Fi. This feature would allow me to cancel my Verizon mobile broadband for my laptop (always happy to save some money).

    Verizon tells me it is possible to use the Incredible as a hotspot, but to do so requires purchasing an additional $49.99 data package (in addition to regular minutes and the $29.99 data package for any smart phone). Is this true? If, instead, I bought Easy Tether or PDANet one time, would that allow me to avoid that pesky $49.99 monthly charge?

    Thanks so much!

    Steven
    nevetsaccount@gmail.com